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ReplyDeleteJeezus, they're quick!
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DeleteThey probably film episodes in "blocks" - and the first few have footage from Miami that was done back in early May. I imagine that there will be a break in filming coming up and then they will come back after Comic Con and hit it hard again.
Don't quote me on that, I could be remembering the schedule of another show.
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Usually they show the "long" trailer with actual footage on Comic Con. So they will probably have the shooting completed by then (usually post production takes much longer than the actual shooting).
DeleteDexter films through September. The trailer in early July is usually scenes from the 1st 4 episodes of a season
Delete4:08
DeleteThat's close to what I thought. As I am watching the show, it always "feels" like there are 3 segments to each season. Beginning 4 episodes, middle 4 episodes, last 4 episodes.
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Woo. Tight schedule. I'm exhausted just thinking about it...
ReplyDeleteDexter reading his tea leaves...
ReplyDeleteIt's not looking good, mate...
I'm hard. Dexter, Breaking Bad and Homeland need to start.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah can't wait for Homeland aswell, Breaking bad not so much..
DeleteHomeland would have been a great movie, but a TV series with several seasons? Reminds me of Prison Break (1st season was great, but the rest...).
DeleteHow do you know what the rest of homeland will be? So I wouldn't judge the show until it is completely over. BTW Prison Break was good for 3 seasons, the 4th season was all over the place and a let down, except for that last episode when Scofield dies.
DeleteThere was one thing worthwhile in Prison Break and that was Theodore Bagwell. The only reason i decided to keep watching Prison Break after season one ended and it started sucking extremely badly. I was patient enough to watch up until the end of the third season just because i wanted to see where the t-bag arc was heading. Its as if the parts Teddy was in, belonged to a different show. Extremely complex and fascinating character that went to waste because of a group of sell out creators. he was central character material.
DeleteIt was absolutely clear right from the beginning how Prison Break (season 1) would end: Michael and Lincoln escape from the prison at the end of the last episode. Even the fact that not all of their "gang" escaped was no surprise. But it still was the most thrilling series i've ever watched.
DeleteHomeland on the other hand is well made, but kinda boring.
I agree with Needlestickinghedonist, Robert Knepper (T-Bag) was fantastic throughout the entire series. He is a very underrated actor. He made that character very creepy, especially with that tongue thing he did..also the way he talked.
DeleteDamn, he's the only thing i remember out of that show. the only thing. and stormare because he's stormare, not because abruzzi was interesting.
DeleteI agree, the idea of having Stomare on the show was great, but the character Abruzzi was flawed and not very interesting.
Delete:) Breaking Bad is badass...
ReplyDeleteBrBa is a great show, though, like Dexter, it still suffers from occasional lapses in reason for the sake of the story.
DeleteThe most egregious bit was in Season 4, and it drove me just nuts. Jessie's "Endless Drug Party at 120+ Db" was, quite frankly, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen on a TV show as high quality as BrBa. Cops in the SW love to investigate loud parties - especially when every drug dealer and meth head in the city shows up! My friend compared it to Dexter setting up a kill room at the church crime scene. I think it was more comparable to Dexter setting up a kill room in his blood spatter lab at Miami Metro. Jeez! =P
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I loved Jesse Pinkman's self destructing mission during those early season 4 days and personally didn't mind that it was a bit excessive. when something is so well made, you overlook stuff like that. that's what happens with good art i guess. i also found breathtaking the scene that fever ray's if i had a heart plays. breaking bad is great.
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DeleteProbably a generational thing - I hated every moment of it. In fact, between Walt's endless rationalizing and constant chatter, and Jessie's moping, I found myself firmly entrenched with "Team Gus". They became so unsympathetic I just wanted the chicken man to whack them both.
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Gus Fring is one of my favourite characters. I don't think it's a generational thing. For me those scenes were very beautifully orchestrated. And the smartest thing was that the Pinkman character had very little dialogue in these episodes. the part where he's left alone after his friends are gone and he turns the volume of the music up and the camera does this travelling back...genius. the show's creators know what they're doing.
Delete:) Trust me it is.
DeleteAs you get older and you have gone through serious shit in your life, characters who brood for any length of time begin to annoy you - especially when those characters are fictional and have brought it all on themselves.
Western culture, for some reason, loves brooding. I think this originated in French Cinema. There is LOTS of brooding in French Cinema! Long surrealistic sequences are nice, just not long surrealistic sequences where someone is feeling sorry for themselves.
That's what I love Dexter so much - he may be a psychopathic serial killer, but he is not a brooder! His wife get's bled out, and he is wandering around a U-Haul a few nights later with a baby and a flashlight. "Hmmmmmm, BLOOD! What can I do about this?" That's forward momentum. I love characters with forward momentum.
Like I said. I enjoy BrBa, but it is not a show I can watch over and over. You see one episode, and you have seen the show - since it relies so heavily on serialization and suspense, it's not that impressive on the second viewing - not enough humor to really carry a reviewing - whereas Dexter (and other similar shows) are so textured that you can watch the same episode ten times over and continually find new things to love.
I've seen every episode of Dexter season 1, at least 20 times each, and the pilot probably 50 times. I would rather watch the news than ever sit through a third viewing of a BrBa episode - not unless it had been years. :)
But each to their own. Different strokes and all of that.
:)
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Oh boy, do I disagree. My favourite film director is Cronenberg, so i guess im not big for moping, i'm more of a cold approach kind of person. And i never, not even once, noticed the elements you're bringing up in Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad is a show that you can watch 20 times and still there's more to see. It's so layered, that if you don't give it enough time or rewatch it, you've missed on so much. Both as far as character development is concerned and stylistically. and again, what moping? If you think Pinkman was moping during the last season, i think that we might have different interpretations of the whole thing, so i'll leave it at that. And Breaking Bad is no representative of classic american storylines. But as you said different strokes and all of that. Breaking Bad is my second favourite show after dexter and then it's oz. six feet under, sopranos and the wire follow. and the list goes on but these are the ones that affected me the most.
DeleteAnd Homeland is growing on me. forgot carnivale and buffy
DeleteAaand Tween Peaks, Lynch owns.
Delete:) First of all, this is not an "argument" in any sense of the word. Rather I am explaining my different "tastes".
DeleteI would never deny your statement Breaking Bad is well done, even great. I only argue with ridiculous notions like people declaring that Dex and Deb never had romantic subtext between them. ;)
Breaking Bad is fairly layered, but it's not that deep for "me". There is nothing about the characters that makes me go "Hmmmnn, I never thought of that angle." There is never a moment of revelation. It's about ruthless people doing ruthless things. The psychology is very simple - the love of things, the pursuit of prestige and self esteem through the acquisition of wealth. To be sick, and to not be able to get those things, or to have things taken away from you is sucks. But I have lived that personally, lost everything because of terrible illness - and chose the complete opposite for my life. You shake off the dust, and you soldier on. If you are ALIVE, it's all good man. Having had a vaguely similar life experience, Walt disgusts me in ways that other people could probably not understand. I feel nothing but utter contempt for the character. I can relate to his pain, I cannot relate to his actions.
And yea. Pinkman mopes - he's had it all in life, rich kid, good home, and he's done nothing but piss his life away and hurt everyone else in the process. In addition, he is dumb as a rock.
I understood exactly what he was going through in season 4 - and it is summed up perfectly by this Fitzgerald quote: "There is no confusion like the confusion of a simple mind."
You just can't get too many layers out of dumb characters in my opinion. And all of these characters, are dumb people - in spite of any practical or apparent "intellect". They pray on the misery of their fellow human beings. Every time one of them dies, the world is a better place. Even Gale deserved what he got - he was cheating society to make a buck.
I've known a few of them out here in the real world.
My favorite shows are Dexter, Farscape, Game of Thrones, 6 Feet Under (still the greatest final ever) Firefly, Sopranos, BSG, Torchwood ----(Children of the Earth is the creepiest 6 hours of television ever made), Madmen, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Chuck (If I can forget about the last season), Life on Mars, Dead Like Me/Pushing Daisies, Cheers/Frasier (the only sitcoms I ever loved or can sit through), Highlander: The Series, Johnny Quest, Starblazers, NYPD Blue (until Jimmy Smits died), and finally, a show that nobody remembers from the late 80's called "Wiseguy" - which ironically, co-starred Johnathan Banks! (Mike from BrBa) In fact, I will always believe that Mike is the gone bad version of Frank McPike!
I am pretty sure that Vince Gilligan is a huge fan of Wiseguy. :)
PS - I love Cronenberg movies as well. A History of Violence was beautiful, and I am so looking forward to Dangerous Method, it's up next on my Netflix que!!!
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I'm not arguing either. :)
DeleteIt's not that simple. If you take a closer look at walter he is the epitome of most things that make a human...well, human. when facing death, stripped of all pretenses, walt shows immense complexity. you made your choices so that makes it all the more difficult to relate to walt, but he's another side to the coin. that's the beauty of breaking bad. you get a character like jesse, seemingly stupid, but he's so much more than that. whether you find him likeable or not. i understand you not condoning their actions but that's not necessary in order to enjoy a show.
cronenberg is a genius. you should watch dead ringers and crash. i've watched every single one of his films and now with cosmopolis he's returning to his original style.
BB premieres in less than a month and still there're hardly any trailers.
DeleteThat was not "moping" in these episodes, actually, most was insinuated. even during the constant partying.
ReplyDeleteAnd Walter is finally evolving to what i wanted him to evolve all along.
ReplyDeleteSince nobody here is talking about Dexter anymore, i'll just join in:
ReplyDeleteThe problem with Breaking Bad is that after you've watched season 4, season 1 is just boring.
We just made conversation since there are no new dexter updates, yet. and season one br bad holds a special place for me even though season 4 is ten times better and more developed.
ReplyDeleteHopefully he goes full Heisenberg now, Shit needs to get real for the last 16(?) episodes. I lost interest somewhere in season 3 I think because Pinkman went from a very likeable character to a not so much likeable one. He did make a comeback later on in season 4 though so I'll stick with it. Why shouldn't I? I sat through that Terra Nova bullshit, I can do anything.
ReplyDelete:) He will, i'm sure.
DeleteI like how Pinkman has gradually turned into the person he is now. Big journey, he's nothing like he started out. i havent watched terra nova but it looks bad! :P
Patrik:
Delete#1 Rule in television. Never watch ANYTHING written by Brandon Braga... he could turn diamonds into poo!
I'll post-it that on my fridge or something.
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